tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post5782282543921894541..comments2013-11-11T19:10:30.999-08:00Comments on Internet Video Blog: 7 Reasons why Joost could fail…Anil Gupte's Various Blogshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10155963964740739695noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post-75391682076610387582007-05-14T12:21:00.000-07:002007-05-14T12:21:00.000-07:00What the hell is L3 ?Anyway, joost may be a cute t...What the hell is L3 ?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Anyway, joost may be a cute toy for children, its of no use to me - the visual quality is crap - AND you can't download the programmes. I <B>don't</B> want to sit at the computer to watch something - I want to watch the TV (probably while I'm doing something else on the computer).<BR/>So if they can't provide it in Divx/Mpeg that the DVR can handle, they won't get my attention.<BR/>But hey, the advertisers always want the young ones, this may be the perfect tool.Stellar Drifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09645505961636411336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post-2346246550099369612007-05-10T09:24:00.000-07:002007-05-10T09:24:00.000-07:00You're better off checking opensource.joost.com --...You're better off checking opensource.joost.com -- joost.sourceforge.net is a completely different piece of software.ElBiggushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02288428711492160775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post-74403546784344905442007-05-10T08:48:00.000-07:002007-05-10T08:48:00.000-07:00The MPL which is the license under which they're u...The MPL which is the license under which they're using the Mozilla platform allows them to withhold the source code for the portions of the product that they create from scratch, but make available the portions of the platform they modify.<BR/><BR/>This is how other Mozilla based products like the Netscape browser remain closed source.<BR/><BR/>Where their opensourceness will help them is that they're planning on allowing third party extension developers (like Firefox allows). I'd expect the YouTube extension to appear pretty quickly :)Ian McKellarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15959494545366543766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post-40712237976949010752007-05-10T08:02:00.000-07:002007-05-10T08:02:00.000-07:00The XML framework Joost has nothing to do with Joo...The XML framework Joost has nothing to do with Joost™ (Baaima N.V.)Matt Hendryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07283256020377318086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post-86315652612240151882007-05-10T07:21:00.000-07:002007-05-10T07:21:00.000-07:001. Streaming is not really a good way to protect ...1. Streaming is not really a good way to protect content against copying but it does make users not worry about filling up their hard drives with content tike bittorrent does .<BR/><BR/>2.What p2p protocol was tested? If it was bittorent it is well known that bittorent is not very efficient at keeping bandwidth within a domain and then according to an ISP that is wasteful and costs them money at Peering points also p2p transfers the distribution costs to the ISPs from the Content Distributor so most ISPs tend to be Anti p2p in general.Here is a good overview of Joosts network Architecture I would suggest you look at it before you make assumptions how the network works . http://www.stdlib.net/~colmmacc/slides/Joost-network.pdf<BR/><BR/>Remember Joost is still is ingesting content and can provide a programed type experience and Im sure you will see users create "channels" of content they like in a linear fashion instead of a VOD experience .As for live p2p there are a handful of p2p companies and researchers working on this like Zatoo and NeoCast and Im sure Joost has live p2p on their roadmap .Linear TV does not have to be live to provide a lean back experience it just requires a listing of shows .<BR/><BR/>Your thoughts about open source are wrong and Joost uses Open Source code heavily because they can quickly stand on the shoulders of Giants with OSS code .Joost also employs a large number of open source developers .Joost is actually very proud of their Open Source roots and Dirk William van Gulik from the Apace Foundation is Joost's CTO also many of the developers working at Joost are over 30 ;).... http://opensource.joost.com/<BR/><BR/>Joost can provide both a lean back or lean forward exepince , I have heard this described as the Rocking Chair experience .<BR/><BR/>As for the Joost team they have some of the Joost has some of the best developers in the world working for them all who are well known in thier own right and then theres the content/adverting people from MTV including 3 high level former MTV Execs who all hold the some of the Top management positions at Joost .Matt Hendryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07283256020377318086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post-10207013093287503592007-05-10T06:23:00.000-07:002007-05-10T06:23:00.000-07:00Zaphgod: I realize Open Source is not synonymous w...Zaphgod: I realize Open Source is not synonymous with GPL, but "Joost is released under the Mozilla Public License 1.1. " - take a look at http://joost.sourceforge.net/<BR/>Mark: Re:10,000 channels - exactly my point. Do you know what a real business with 10,000 channels looks like? Just getting them on board will take an army. Either that, or you run the risk of every porn-operator and amateur clogging you channel list.Anil Gupte's Various Blogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10155963964740739695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post-89674843501719599242007-05-10T03:26:00.000-07:002007-05-10T03:26:00.000-07:00OK, so, while there isn't "user contributed conten...OK, so, while there isn't "user contributed content" where Joost is going - when you have, say, 10,000 channels - anyone who can demonstrate an audience in the low hundreds to thousands will be able to mount a successful Joost channel. That's something between Cable TV and YouTube. And middles are very fertile places to be.<BR/><BR/>Second: Joost is much more than a lean-back experience. As we see the widgets evolve, we'll get a sense of what roll-your-own interactive TV looks like.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07682503052198574302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19197835.post-59993008707405315402007-05-10T03:11:00.000-07:002007-05-10T03:11:00.000-07:00Just a couple points.All of Joost's content is VOD...Just a couple points.<BR/><BR/>All of Joost's content is VOD right now.<BR/><BR/>Open Source is not synonimous with GPL. There are many OS licences and not all of them require releasing the source of derived works.Ugohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14692677976835608497noreply@blogger.com